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Invitation to blind test: "Do 16/44.1 stereo players sound different?"

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Hey guys,
I don't get a chance to come out here much but wanted to invite folks to try out this "blind test" for those who might not have seen it yet.

Basically, I recorded in high resolution (24/96) 4 different devices playing the same 16/44 pieces of music to see if the listener (you) can hear the differences between quite disparate pieces of equipment. I won't tell you what these 4 devices are yet of course, but can say that once I reveal the identities, you'll recognize that these devices are of very different qualities and price points.

I have measured all the devices and will reveal the objective results (which are easily captured by the high resolution ADC) when the test is complete.

There are a few logical conclusions and correlations we can try to make based on the listener response...

Anyhow, have a peek here if you're able to help out! Thanks...
INTERNET BLIND TEST: Do digital audio players sound different? (Playing 16/44.1 music.)

Definitive Technology Review/Recommendations

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Let me start with this is my first thread to AVS Forum!

Being a Definitive Technology fan for years, I wanted to give my two cents on the brand, and I wanted to post my recommendations on products currently available.

Background (How I got Into the Brand)

I was exposed to the company early, as my dad purchased an entire system in the early 90's. Growing up, the system I listened to frequently consisted of the following:
Main: 2-BP20s
Center: C1
Surround: 2-BP2s
Subwoofer: Powerfield 1800
Receiver: Yamaha DSP-A1

I was completely blown away with how loud the system could get in combination with the overall clarity. Our two-story house would shake anytime we were watching a movie. I never witnessed a home audio system that could come close to this quality of sound. Most of my friend's parents had systems from companies such as Bose, Polk Audio, Klipsch, JBL, Sony, Pioneer, (the usual major name brand companies). I was definitely able to notice a difference in audio quality with their systems as compared to what I had at home. I mean sure, other speakers could get loud too, but never with the same amount of clarity. Though we mainly used the system for movies, I also got into music early. My dad had a collection of SACDs that he would use to "show-off" the system. One of my favorites is Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon...not only is the music pure gold, but the way it is mixed in 5.1 makes it completely different than the original. I really had a deep appreciation for surround sound systems. I also understand the benefits of bipolar speakers, and how amazing "3d sound" truly is.

I purchased my first Definitive Technology products in early 2014 from Newegg. At the time, Newegg was an authorized reseller of Definitive Technology products, and they were selling several discontinued models new-in-box for crazy discounts.
I purchased 2 BP8Bs for $400 sight un-seen. I knew the major difference between "newer-gen" Definitive Technology speakers was the change from soft-dome tweeters to aluminum ones. This would be my first time being exposed to these newer tweeters. You can find tons of discussions on the differences online, so I am not going to dive into it here; basically people either love it or hate it. I ran these two speakers in a 2.1 configuration with a Yamaha YST-SW216 subwoofer driven by an open-box Pioneer VSX-823 that I got for basically next-to-nothing (think I spent $150). The receiver came with nothing (no remote, no calibration mic, etc.), so I ran it at default settings with no calibration. It sounded better than anything I had ever owned, but I immediately started saving for a better system. I did notice a small amount of harshness from the tweeters at times, and I read a lot of people complain about this. However, over time I became more accustomed with the system, and by then, the system had time to break-in and shine.

Around the same time, my dad made upgrades to his existing system:
Main: 2-BP20s
Center: CS-8060HD
Surround: 2-BP8040STs
Surround Rear: 2-BP2s
Subwoofer: Powerfield 1800
Receiver: Denon X7200W

This is what got me into Denon and the amazing benefits of Audyssey calibration! I am so glad they are all part of the same company now!!
Even with the mix/match of aluminum tweeters and soft-dome ones, each speaker blends with one-another very well. I have no complaints with the differences in technology.

Current Setup
In 2017, I made the jump to a 7.2 system.
My current system consists of:
Main: 2-BP30s
Center: C/L/R 1000B
Surround: 2-BP8Bs
Surround Rear: 2-BP6s (with aluminum tweeters)
Subwoofer 1: Polk Audio HTS-12
Subwoofer 2: Yamaha YST-SW216
Receiver: Denon X6300H

I purchased all my speakers used on Craigslist (minus the BP8Bs/Polk Audio HTS-12). Huge difference from what I had before. This system is amazing!! I used 12-gauge speaker wire throughout the entire system, and it is fully Audyssey calibrated. I couldn't be happier, especially with how little I spent in order to get this configuration. I feel I will keep these speakers for the rest of my life and only make additions to the system over time. I will admit that I had a so-so experience using Craigslist. I came to realize after a period of time that my BP30s had blown woofers (4/8 were working, but rattled at lower frequencies). I demoed the speakers for a number of hours before purchasing, and I never noticed an issue at the time. Decided to call Definitive Technology's customer service to get a quote for replacing the 4 woofers. I should start by saying this was not my first call to Definitive Technology. I have called previously for product knowledge and for some replacement parts (replaced a scratched top for a BP8B that I caused, free-of-charge), and they were always extremely helpful and polite. They never ask for purchase history (no digging through your receipts/finding serial numbers, etc.), and they take care of you each and every time. Read about this online, you will see how others' expectations were exceeded. Other than providing amazing sound quality at extremely reasonable prices, this is another reason they keep long-term customers. Definitive Technology sent me the 4 woofers free of charge...another reason I will stick with the brand for life! I disclosed that I was not the original owner, but they chose to help me out anyways!

Recommendations of Bipolar/Tower Speakers

Definitive Technology still sells many products, and I wanted to make recommendations for those that want to make the jump to the brand like I did.

My recommendations will only be based on new floor-standing speaker systems that are still easy to find. Definitive Technology also makes nice sound-bars, bookshelf speakers, and "Stereo-In-A-Box" solutions. Reviews for each of these are very readily available. It is often difficult to find used Def-Tech equipment locally (where you have the opportunity to demo, etc.), so I am not going to include it here. I definitely recommend checking, as some great deals appear rarely...from what I have seen in the last several years, people tend to keep their Definitive Technology systems. The people I purchased my equipment from were moving/down-sizing, and they did not want to take their equipment with them due to lack of space.

Check Definitive Technology's website for authorized re-sellers. They show both online/local stores. They also sell directly on their own website.

I would not recommend purchasing new products from an un-authorized dealer. (EVEN IF OFFERED FOR DISCOUNTED PRICES)

If you are willing to buy refurbished, check here! (these are authorized re-sellers as well):
Accessories4Less
Ebay (definitivetechnology) = this is Definitive Technology's official store on eBay...used to be bajawaverunner

If you are willing to buy used, check your local Best Buy. They usually sell their display models over time as well as returned products. Since Best Buy is an authorized re-seller, even used products are under warranty.

Recommended models:

Bi-polar towers (no particular order):
1. BP10B-$599/ea
2. BP6B-$399/ea
3. BP9060-$1099/ea
4. BP9080x-$1749/ea
5. Mythos ST-L-$2499

The BP10B/BP6B are the most identical to what I currently have.
I have demoed both the BP10B/BP6B -> (this is literally the same as my BP6, minus cosmetic differences) in a number of different applications and was thoroughly impressed.
The biggest concern in recommending the BP10B/BP6B now, is that it will be extremely difficult to get an audition. Most authorized resellers of these two models will no longer have a demo model. As far as I know, they are still in production, but are slowly on their way out. I've gone to several stores such as Best Buy/Magnolia, Nebraska Furniture Mart, etc. and have never seen these models on display. Instead, the BP9000 series are the only tower speakers that are commonly available for demo. Let me add, the Mythos ST-L is also sometimes available. If you are comfortable purchasing sight-unseen, definitely go for the BP10B or BP6B models. I feel these are the best bang for the buck, and I would recommend purchasing a high-quality subwoofer or two as well. These will run great in either a 2.1 configuration or a surround sound system.

I also recommend the BP9060 (or above -> BP9080x), because I feel these two models are the true step-ups from the BP10B. The BP9040/9020 are great speakers, but I would not use them as mains over the BP10B/BP6B, especially if you have room for a decent subwoofer.
If these are beyond your price range, I would definitely suggest starting with the BP6Bs or the BP10Bs. Later down the line, these can become your surrounds with new Definitive Technology mains. Also check the refurbished websites I listed above, as these models appear some-what frequently. These are powered speakers (amplifiers to drive the subwoofers), so they each require a separate power cord in tandem with speaker wiring from your receiver. They also all support Atmos speakers (model A90), so if you are fan of the standard, this is a nice plus. The BP9080x already has atmos speakers built in. I personally prefer ceiling mounted Atmos speakers, but this is not always a viable option. I find that they provide plenty of bass on their own, but I have seen a number of cases where people choose to run these with one to two subwoofers anyways. I have only experienced the BP9000 series with Denon Audyssey XT32 receivers. When wiring powered speakers, I have never found the need to use the optional LFE channel. Even without dedicated subwoofers, Audyssey will usually label these speakers as large/full-range and send all frequencies through. There is no harm in trying both methods to find your best results. Anytime I have tried the LFE method, I could not tell the difference. I also recommend keeping the volume knobs of Definitive Technology powered speakers at 50%.

The Mythos ST-L is the highest-end speakers available from Definitive Technology. I have auditioned them several times listening to a combination of home-theater/music demos. I am thoroughly impressed with them. However, these are way beyond my price range. I could never see myself paying $5,000 for a pair of speakers.

Center Speakers (no particular order):
1. CS-9060-$699/ea
2. CS-9040-$499/ea
3. CS-9080-$999/ea

If you opt for the BP10B/BP6B route as your main speakers, any of these three models will work. Personally, I feel the CS-9080 is overkill especially if you go with BP6Bs. I would highly recommend the CS-9040 with these tower speakers. The CS-9060 is a good choice if you want a dedicated subwoofer with your center channel (vs. a passive bass radiator). However, this will require running a power cord to the speaker (keep this in mind!!). Another con with the current center speaker selection is they do not match the BP10B/BP6B cosmetically. They will timber-match the BP10B/BP6B series, however, so there should be no concern there. The last model that was sold that matched the BP10B/BP6B cosmetically was the C/L/R-2002, which was discontinued a few years back. They were still somewhat available till about a year ago. I recently tried hunting one down, but I was unsuccessful in finding a new one in stock. At the time of writing this, I found a small amount in stock refurbished on Def Tech's ebay site.

If you decide to go with the BP9060s, definitely opt for either the CS-9060/CS-9080. If you decide to go with the BP9080x/Mythos ST-L, I would only recommend the CS-9080. I have spent an extensive amount of time demoing each of the models, and I definitely understand the differences in price/application. Each step-up is easily justifiable. Just like the BP9000 series, these three models are very easy to find and audition.

Surround (no particular order):
1. One of the recommended bi-polar towers if you have the space!
2. SR-9080-$349/ea
3. SR-9040-$249/ea

I have not listened to SR-9000 series extensively. However, these models are easy to find and audition, so I definitely recommend doing so before purchasing.
Note: These work best wall-mounted (most places that have these readily available for demo will wall-mount them as well).

Subwoofer:
There are tons of subwoofers available. I've listened to many high-end ones from SVS, HSU, Definitive Technology, etc. I went with the Polk Audio HTS-12 (AVS Forum made a great review for this, so check it out), because I took advantage of an amazing sale, and I am very happy with it. I would recommend demoing several, and researching in this space. I do not find it important to brand-match in this segment.

I am a firm believer in Denon receivers, due to their inclusion of Audyssey. Many other main brands have their own home-grown calibration techniques, which I personally dislike.
It is important to note that Def Tech speakers are very efficient...they do not require large amounts of amplification to shine. With that said, I would not penny/nickle in this space if possible. Also, do not penny/nickle when purchasing speaker wire. This will really change the outcomes, especially in bass, if you opt for cheaper/lower-quality wire. Buy the thickest gauge of wire you can afford.

Here is a list of comparisons between the various generations of Bipolar Speaker systems Definitive Technology created.

Early Gen (when Definitive Technology made the move to aluminum tweeters):

BP3000TL
Dimensions: 9"W x 19"D x 55"H
Frequency Response: 13Hz - 30kHz
Nominal Impedence: 4-8 ohms
Recommended Amplification: 30-600 Watts
Drivers: 4-6.5" Woofers/2-1" Pure Aluminum Tweeters/18" Subwoofer
Efficiency: 92 dB

BP2000TL
Dimensions: 9"W x 17"D x 50"H
Frequency Response: 15Hz - 30kHz
Nominal Impedence: 4-8 ohms
Recommended Amplification: 20-500 Watts
Drivers: 4-6.5" Woofers/2-1" Pure Aluminum Tweeters/15" Subwoofer
Efficiency: 92dB

BP2002TL
Dimensions: 7.25"W x 15.81"D x 45.88"H
Frequency Response: 17Hz - 30kHz
Nominal Impedence: 4-8 ohms
Recommended Amplification: 20-400 Watts
Drivers: 4-5.25" Woofers/2-1" Pure Aluminum Tweeters/12" Subwoofer
Efficiency: 92dB

BP2004TL
Dimensions: 7.25"W x 13"D x 41"H
Frequency Response: 18Hz - 30kHz
Nominal Impedence: 4-8 ohms
Recommended Amplification: 20-300 Watts
Drivers: 2-5.25" Woofers/2-1" Pure Aluminum Tweeters/10" Subwoofer
Efficiency: 92dB

BP2006TL
Dimensions: 6.25"W x 11.5"D x 38"H
Frequency Response: 19Hz - 30kHz
Nominal Impedence: 4-8 ohms
Recommended Amplification: 20-250 Watts
Drivers: 2-4.5" Woofers/2-1" Pure Aluminum Tweeters/8" Subwoofer
Efficiency: 92dB

BP30
Dimensions: 8.5"W x 15"D x 46"H
Frequency Response: 18Hz - 30kHz
Nominal Impedence: 4-8 ohms
Recommended Amplification: 20-500 Watts
Drivers: 4-6.5" Woofers/2-1" Pure Aluminum Tweeters
Efficiency: 91dB

BP10B
Dimensions: 8"W x 12.25"D x 42"H
Frequency Response: 20Hz - 30kHz
Nominal Impedence: 4-8 ohms
Recommended Amplification: 20-300 Watts
Drivers: 2-6.5" Woofers/2-1" Pure Aluminum Tweeters
Efficiency: 91dB

BP8B
Dimensions: 7"W x 11"D x 38"H
Frequency Response: 22Hz - 30kHz
Nominal Impedence: 4-8 ohms
Recommended Amplification: 20-200 Watts
Drivers: 2-5.25" Woofers/2-1" Pure Aluminum Tweeters
Efficiency: 91dB

BP6B
Dimensions: 7"W x 11"D x 35"H
Frequency Response: 25Hz - 30kHz
Nominal Impedence: 4-8 ohms
Recommended Amplification: 20-175 Watts
Drivers: 2-5.25" Woofers/2-1" Pure Aluminum Tweeters
Efficiency: 91dB

BP7000 Series:

BP7000SC
Dimensions: 8.9"W x 16.6"D x 52.5"H
Frequency Response: 11Hz - 30kHz
Nominal Impedence: 4-8 ohms
Recommended Amplification: 20-1000 Watts
Drivers: 4-6.5" Woofers/2-1" Pure Aluminum Tweeters/14" Subwoofer w 2-14" Bass Radiators
Efficiency: 92dB

BP7001SC
Dimensions: 8.4"W x 15"D x 48"H
Frequency Response: 13Hz - 30kHz
Nominal Impedence: 4-8 ohms
Recommended Amplification: 30-600 Watts
Drivers: 4-6.5" Woofers/2-1" Pure Aluminum Tweeters/10" Subwoofer w 2-10" Bass Radiators
Efficiency: 92dB

BP7002
Dimensions: 7.25"W x 16"D x 46.25"H
Frequency Response: 15Hz - 30kHz
Nominal Impedence: 4-8 ohms
Recommended Amplification: 20-400 Watts
Drivers: 4-5.25" Woofers/2-1" Pure Aluminum Tweeters/12" Subwoofer w 2-12" Bass Radiators
Efficiency: 92dB

BP7004
Dimensions: 6.6"W x 13"D x 42.25"H
Frequency Response: 16Hz - 30kHz
Nominal Impedence: 4-8 ohms
Recommended Amplification: 20-300 Watts
Drivers: 2-5.25" Woofers/2-1" Pure Aluminum Tweeters/10" Subwoofer w 2-10" Bass Radiators
Efficiency: 92dB

BP7006
Dimensions: 6.25"W x 11.5"D x 38.1"H
Frequency Response: 17Hz - 30kHz
Nominal Impedence: 4-8 ohms
Recommended Amplification: 20-250 Watts
Drivers: 2-4.5" Woofers/2-1" Pure Aluminum Tweeters/8" Subwoofer w 2-8" Bass Radiators
Efficiency: 92dB

BP8000 Series:

BP8080-ST
Dimensions: 7"W x 16.31"D x 48.25"H
Frequency Response: 18Hz - 30kHz
Nominal Impedence: 4-8 ohms
Recommended Amplification: 20-400 Watts
Drivers: 3-5.25" Woofers/2-1" Pure Aluminum Tweeters/12" Subwoofer w 2-12.5" Bass Radiators
Efficiency: 92dB

BP8060-ST
Dimensions: 5.94"W x 13.44"D x 44.19"H
Frequency Response: 20Hz - 30kHz
Nominal Impedence: 4-8 ohms
Recommended Amplification: 20-300 Watts
Drivers: 3-4.5" Woofers/2-1" Pure Aluminum Tweeters/10" Subwoofer w 2-10" Bass Radiators
Efficiency: 92dB

BP8040-ST
Dimensions: 5.63"W x 11.63"D x 39"H
Frequency Response: 25Hz - 30kHz
Nominal Impedence: 4-8 ohms
Recommended Amplification: 20-300 Watts
Drivers: 3-3.5" Woofers/2-1" Pure Aluminum Tweeters/8" Subwoofer w 2-8" Bass Radiators
Efficiency: 92dB

BP8020-ST
Dimensions: 5.63"W x 11.63"D x 35.88"H
Frequency Response: 30Hz - 30kHz
Nominal Impedence: 4-8 ohms
Recommended Amplification: 20-250 Watts
Drivers: 3-3.5" Woofers/1" Pure Aluminum Tweeter/8" Subwoofer
Efficiency: 92dB

BP9000 Series (current):

BP9080x
Dimensions: 7"W x 16"D x 50.5"H
Frequency Response: 16Hz - 40kHz
Nominal Impedence: 4-8 ohms
Recommended Amplification: 50-300 Watts
Drivers: 4-5.25" Woofers/2-1" Pure Aluminum Tweeters/12" Subwoofer w 2-12" Bass Radiators/Atmos = 5.25" Woofer/1" Aluminum Tweeter
Efficiency: 92dB

BP9060
Dimensions: 6"W x 13"D x 43.75"H
Frequency Response: 18Hz - 40kHz
Nominal Impedence: 4-8 ohms
Recommended Amplification: 50-300 Watts
Drivers: 3-4.5" Woofers/2-1" Pure Aluminum Tweeters/10" Subwoofer w 2-10" Bass Radiators
Efficiency: 92dB

BP9040
Dimensions: 6"W x 13"D x 38.25"H
Frequency Response: 22Hz - 40kHz
Nominal Impedence: 4-8 ohms
Recommended Amplification: 50-300 Watts
Drivers: 3-4.5" Woofers/2-1" Pure Aluminum Tweeters/8" Subwoofer w 2-8" Bass Radiators
Efficiency: 92dB

BP9020
Dimensions: 6"W x 13"D x 34.75"H
Frequency Response: 28Hz - 40kHz
Nominal Impedence: 4-8 ohms
Recommended Amplification: 50-200 Watts
Drivers: 3-3.5" Woofers/1" Pure Aluminum Tweeter/8" Subwoofer
Efficiency: 92dB

C/L/R Series:

C/L/R 3000
Dimensions: 25"W x 16"D x 8.31"H
Frequency Response: 19Hz - 30kHz
Nominal Impedence: 4-8 ohms
Recommended Amplification: 20-400 Watts
Drivers: 2-6.5" Woofers/1" Pure Aluminum Tweeter/10" Subwoofer
Efficiency: 91dB

C/L/R 2500
Dimensions: 23.5"W x 14.06"D x 6.75"H
Frequency Response: 20Hz - 30kHz
Nominal Impedence: 4-8 ohms
Recommended Amplification: 20-300 Watts
Drivers: 2-5.25" Woofers/1" Pure Aluminum Tweeter/8" Subwoofer
Efficiency: 91dB

C/L/R 2300
Dimensions: 19.5"W x 12"D x 5.75"H
Frequency Response: 22Hz - 30kHz
Nominal Impedence: 4-8 ohms
Recommended Amplification: 20-250 Watts
Drivers: 2-4.5" Woofers/1" Pure Aluminum Tweeter/8" Subwoofer
Efficiency: 91dB

C/L/R 2000
Dimensions: 21.5"W x 15"D x 8.31"H
Frequency Response: 22Hz - 30kHz
Nominal Impedence: 4-8 ohms
Recommended Amplification: 20-350 Watts
Drivers: 2-6.5" Woofers/1" Pure Aluminum Tweeter
Efficiency: 90dB

C/L/R 2002
Dimensions: 21"W x 12"D x 6.75"H
Frequency Response: 30Hz - 30kHz
Nominal Impedence: 4-8 ohms
Recommended Amplification: 20-250 Watts
Drivers: 2-6.5" Woofers/1" Pure Aluminum Tweeter
Efficiency: 91dB

C/L/R 1000B
Dimensions: 21.5"W x 12"D x 8"H
Frequency Response: 25Hz - 30kHz
Nominal Impedence: 4-8 ohms
Recommended Amplification: 20-300 Watts
Drivers: 2-6.5" Woofers/1" Pure Aluminum Tweeter
Efficiency: 90dB

CS8000 Series:

CS-8080HD
Dimensions: 23.5"W x 14"D x 6.75"H
Frequency Response: 20Hz - 30kHz
Nominal Impedence: 4-8 ohms
Recommended Amplification: 20-300 Watts
Drivers: 2-5.25" Woofers/1" Pure Aluminum Tweeter/5" x 10" (oval) Subwoofer w 2-5" x 10" (oval) Bass Radiators
Efficiency: 92dB

CS-8060HD
Dimensions: 21.13"W x 12"D x 5.75"H
Frequency Response: 30Hz - 30kHz
Nominal Impedence: 4-8 ohms
Recommended Amplification: 20-250 Watts
Drivers: 2-4.5" Woofers/1" Pure Aluminum Tweeter/8" Subwoofer
Efficiency: 92dB

CS-8040HD
Dimensions: 21.13"W x 12"D x 5.75"H
Frequency Response: 40Hz - 30kHz
Nominal Impedence: 4-8 ohms
Recommended Amplification: 20-200 Watts
Drivers: 2-4.5" Woofers/1" Pure Aluminum Tweeter/5" x 10" (oval) Bass Radiator
Efficiency: 92dB

CS9000 Series (current):

CS-9080
Dimensions: 23"W x 14.25"D x 7"H
Frequency Response: 24Hz - 40kHz
Nominal Impedence: 4-8 ohms
Recommended Amplification: 50-300 Watts
Drivers: 2-5.25" Woofers/1" Pure Aluminum Tweeter/8" Subwoofer w 10" Bass Radiator
Efficiency: 91dB

CS-9060
Dimensions: 20.75"W x 12"D x 5.95"H
Frequency Response: 32Hz - 40kHz
Nominal Impedence: 4-8 ohms
Recommended Amplification: 50-300 Watts
Drivers: 2-4.5" Woofers/1" Pure Aluminum Tweeter/8" Subwoofer
Efficiency: 91dB

CS-9040
Dimensions: 20.75"W x 12"D x 5.95"H
Frequency Response: 50Hz - 40kHz
Nominal Impedence: 4-8 ohms
Recommended Amplification: 50-200 Watts
Drivers: 2-4.5" Woofers/1" Pure Aluminum Tweeter/8" Bass Radiator
Efficiency: 89dB

You can see the general direction Definitive Technology has taken over the years. As most other manufacturers, Definitive Technology has decreased the size of their drivers, which has decreased the overall size of their floor-standing lineup. Their are many discussions between larger/smaller driver sizes. The biggest difference I notice, is that the larger woofers allowed for more bass. The smaller drivers allowed for tighter/more accurate bass.

Recommended models:
1. X3500-7 channel
2. X4500-9 channel
3. X6500-11 channel
4. X8500-13 channel

Not going to spend too much time here as the main topic for this article is for the speakers.
These are the models that contain the highest Audyssey suite (XT32). My current receiver is closest to the X6500 (there are very small differences between the two). I also own a Denon X1200 (closest to the X1500). I definitely notice a difference between the lower-end Audyssey suite, and I do not recommend taking this route.
The only real con to the X3500/X4500, other than the "weaker" amplifiers, is the inability to expand to more channels. You are locked into 7/9 channels respectively. This may not seem like a concern, but if you ever plan on a surround system + Dolby Atmos/Aero 3D, you will most likely wish you went with the X6500/X8500.
The X3500 supports a max of a 5.2.2 system (if you go Atmos) or up to 7.2 otherwise.
The X4500 supports a max of a 5.2.4 system/7.2.2 (if you go Atmos) or up to 9.2 otherwise. (I've seen mixed information here, please correct me if this is incorrect...the previous model (X4400) allowed for up to 11 channels via pre-outs, but it seems this is no longer the case with the X4500).
I went with the X6300, because it will allow me to go to a 7.2.4 system in the future. I feel like this is more than enough, but if I had the money, the X8500 would be absolutely perfect! It was the first 13 channel receiver to come out, and it seems to be highly desirable.

SAMSUNG LED UN43NU6900 HDR but wont show HDR

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I bought this recently as a temporary since i moved to a new place and when i play HDR there is no brief HDR logo shown and the PQ settings dont have different options

On my OLED tvs it shows PQ options for HDR, SDR and DV and shows the logo for DV and HDR, why does this TV not

Marantz av8802a $1475

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I just bought a new processor so i m selling the marantz av8802a. I have had it for about 3 years. It has been flawless with zero issues . It has been in my dedicated basement theater since i took it out of the box. It is in near perfect condition except for a couple very light scratches on to top. I have all original accessories and box. Will ship double boxed and insured.
$1475 shipped

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entry new receivers vs older high end receivers?

I have sonos playbar and sub questions

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Hey guys really thinking about getting a Sonos playbar and maybe the sub if I can afford it due to having no room for my current 5.1 setup and av reciver.

I just wanna know what your guys thoughts are on the playbar. I am in a small room so im more concerned about sound quality than how loud it can get.
I will use it for games / movies and TV and music. I love the minimal idea of a soundbar.

things I want to know are as follows.

1) How good does the playbar sound / will I need the sub as well?

2) is it 2.0 stereo or if I hook it up to my 4k sony tv via optical will I get 3.1?

3) are there better options out there? my other option is the lg SK9Y or the bose 700 soundbars.

4) any things I am overlooking / need to know going from a 4k avr and 5.1 to a playbar?

Thoughts?

Looking for 32"+ tv only 1080p for dvd use (va or preferably amva.)

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I currently have a benq 27" monitor with an amva panel that I love, but it's a bit small for dvd use; can't find an amva tv/monitor over 27" that isn't 1440p which I believe is too high for dvd use. I know there are some va tvs with good blacks/high contrast; any advise would be appreciated. I know someone with a samsung 2015 j5200 32" model that has a nice picture and has held up under heavy use over the years; I see there are still new 43" ones in that model. I don't need it to be smart tv. Don't want to go over what I could get the 43" Samsung for ($300) Any suggestions?

Can I place my subwoofer next to tv safely?

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I have an old Sony DAV X1V that's a virtual surround system with an unpowered subwoofer and 2 speakers, total of around 500 watts; it's going in my bedroom on a dresser that the tv is going to be on the wall under 1 ft from the subwoofer. Is this a safety concern for the tv?

Itunes and Bluesound

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Hi all,
I'm not sure if this is the place to post this, but in the past I've been able to stream the Itunes on my Iphone to my Bluesound 2, but suddenly I cannot.
I got some BS technical answer about Metadata and Apple blocking it, but they never really answered my question.
Is this no longer possible? will it ever be possible again?
This was a big reason for me to buy the Bluesound but I can't get a definitive answer from them.

Dan

external Bluray drive with TV?

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in my LG 55ub8500 I found that its compatible with an external USB blu ray drive. but couldn't find any more info
tried one from best buy but it didnt actually play.


I really want to see if I can find a compatible drive so I can hide behind tv and have no wires showing. tv is close to the wall not enough space to mount a regular dvd player behind it

Basement Theater Check

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Started framing my basement looking to do a dedicated theater with double walls and double doors. Looking for anyone to look over my plans on spacing and things to mention any pitfalls

Thanks for all the help

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Home Theater System for Sale! Polk Signature + SVS PB-2000

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I am moving and my new place will need smaller speakers and a smaller sub, so I am sadly selling my items.

Items for Sale:
4 Polk Signature S15 bookshelf speakers (great condition)
1 Polk Signature S30 center speaker (great condition)
1 SVS PB-2000 (great condition) (this was bought used from an AVS forum member and I think still has 1 or 2 years of warranty left on it - I can confirm with SVS) and includes the SVS isolation feet that's $50 to buy from them.
4 bookshelf speaker stands
(1) Pioneer Atmos add-on (great condition)

Price is $775 for everything, local (Chicago) only - no shipping. I may be willing to part with these separately (subwoofer vs speakers).

I will post pictures sometime in the next day or two (I'm not at home at the moment).

Denon X3500H Vs Marantz SR5012

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I've kind of had my head in the sand the last few years in regards to the latest tech in receivers. However, I just found out about dolby atmos and it sounds pretty cool. I primarily use my space for movies and gaming. It's about 10'x20' and currently I have:
2 X Polk Monitor 70 fronts (front two corners of room)
2 X Polk Monitor Monitor 30 Surrounds (in the rear corners of the room)
1 X Polk CS20 Center
1 X Premier Acoustic PA-120SUB twoards the front.
All driven by an Onkyo TX-SR608

I've ordered two Micca M-8C's to be the two upper speakers in a 5.1.2 atmos setup.

I just got back from a couple of stores where I listened to some receivers and I (think) have narrowed it down to the Marantz SR5012 and the Denon X3500H. I realize these are previous year models at this point, but I am trying to save where I can.

The Marantz to me sounded a bit crisper, but I dont know if that was the settings they had on the Denon or what. Does anyone have an opinion about either of these? I like the looks of the Marantz more, but that's low priority for me.

Need help with small speakers for new place! Huge downsize

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So I put basically my entire home theater up on sale on the classifieds section, and I need some help!

I need front and center speakers that do not stick out more than 5 inches-ish from the wall. The fireplace mantle lip is about 5" and the fiance doesn't want anything sticking out further than that.

We do not want want any holes in the wall, but have decided that the center speaker can be mounted since it has to be directly beneath the TV. The speakers will need to be sealed or front/down ported since it will be against a wall.

This is what I'm thinking:
Front LR - Emotiva E1 as depth is only 4 inches (I already have this at home) as I can put some sticky tape on the bottom of this 4" depth and a tiny thumbtack hole and to make it so it doesn't fall off (WAF says a tiny thumbtack hole size is acceptable)

Front Center: Polk S35 as depth is about 6.5 inches (this is the slimmest center I can find that might kind of match with the emotiva and WAF has approved this one deviation)

Back Surrounds: bipole something (not sure what yet) or Emotiva E1's.

The living room is a large space and I know these don't really suffice, but its either this or nothing (and I really do not want a sound bar at all).

My sub might have to be the SVS SB12-NSD which I currently own since its small. If there is another sub that is close to this size but more powerful I am willing to take a look.

Budget is less than $1,000 for everything total (I will sell my stuff and pay out of pocket for whatever difference there is. I can also sell my SB12 NSD if need be).

The living room opens up to everything and has vaulted ceilings... the living room/dining room area is 21 long x 15 deep x 20 high... adding in the kitchen, it is 33 long x 15 deep x 20 high (all in feet).

I currently have the Polk S15's and Polk S30 + Andrew Jones Atmos and PB-2000 in a small space and this sounds better than a home theater in my small apartment now, so I know I won't get anywhere near that. I won't be able to blast my movies and music in the new place either so there's that.

Is there anything I can use that will still sound somewhat good that meets these strict requirements?

Can i connect bass shaker to 7.2 reciever with 2 subwoofer connected?

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This may sound like a very stupid question and I have no clue as to how bass shakers work. I have a 7.2 reciever with 2 subwoofer connected using RCA splitter. They are connected to the subwoofer input on the reciever.Is it impossible for me to get a bass shaker connected and working or am i done with the 2 subwoofers connected? i find it pretty odd to have to buy a 7.2.3 reciever just to do this. The main reason i want to this is so that i can play games with my ps4 and have the bass shaker working. The 2 subwoofers feel great for Movies but when i want to play games i use headphones since i stay up pretty late when playing. Am i screwed or could this work?

Borresen Acoustics Owners Thread... The Next Level

Will KEF Q900 speaker for center channel work well?

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Will KEF Q900 speaker for center channel work well?

AVR: Yamaha TSR7850

L/R Speakers: ancient JBL LE15A woofers with new surrounds + JBL LE85 horns with new diaphragm

no sub, no rear speakers at this time.

PJ: Epson 5040ub onto 110" painted white drywall

I saw a local ad selling a single KEF Q900 for $250. Other prices on ebay are hundreds more.

Would this make an awesome center channel speaker?

Its large (42" x 10" x 13")

For now I can lay it horizontally near floor under screen.

In the future I have a large cavity behind the screen, and I may remove the drywall and use AT fabric to build an AT screen. Then I would mount the Q900 behind the screen.

Would this work well for me? Why or why not?

Thanks in advance!!

Miracle Workers - Limited Series on TBS

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Steve Buscemi as God? Yes, please. I watched the first episode already on demand. Enjoying it so far. Here's the official description and trailer.

Miracle Workers premieres February 12 at 10:30/9:30c on TBS.
The first season of anthology series Miracle Workers is a Heaven-set workplace comedy based on Simon Rich's book What in God's Name. The show stars Daniel Radcliffe, Steve Buscemi, Geraldine Viswanathan and Karan Soni. Radcliffe plays Craig, a low-level angel responsible for handling all of humanity's prayers, and Steve Buscemi plays Craig's boss God, who has pretty much checked out and is ready to move on to his next project.

Calibrating TV - Beginners Guide?

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I am looking in to trying to learn how to calibrate my own TV.

Devices:
  • 4K HDR TV
  • Apple TV
  • Blu Ray Player

Equipment:
  • Spyder 3 Sensor

I downloaded HCFR and looking in to if this is something I can get in to. Is there a place with a basic guide on this?

Thanks in advance.

In-ceiling speakers

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I’m looking for some good in-ceiling speakers for my living room. The wife wouldn’t let me install floor standing speakers but she was willing to compromise and get in-ceiling speakers. I couldn’t find any websites with reviews, but I was looking at the Klipsch Pro-180RPC, Pro-18C or the Bowers & Wilkins -CCM 683. Does any have any reviews on these speakers? Does anyone have any other recommendations on in-ceiling speakers?
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